Legislature(2001 - 2002)

03/26/2002 08:07 AM House STA

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HB 397 - SNOWMOBILE DRIVERS' LICENSING EXEMPTION                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Number 1314                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL announced that the  next order of business would be                                                               
HOUSE  BILL  NO.  397,  "An  Act exempting  a  person  driving  a                                                               
snowmobile from driver licensing requirements."                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR COGHILL  asked if there  was any objection to  the adoption                                                               
of CSHB 397,  Version 22-LS1448\O, Ford, 3/22/02,  as the working                                                               
document.   There being  no objection, Version  O was  before the                                                               
committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Number 1286                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE VIC KOHRING,  Alaska State Legislature, testifying                                                               
as  the sponsor  of HB  397, explained  that HB  397 attempts  to                                                               
eliminate the  need for a  driver's license for  snowmobiles that                                                               
aren't operated  on the road system  in Alaska.  He  informed the                                                               
committee  that  last year  the  Department  of Transportation  &                                                               
Public  Facilities   (DOT&PF)  did  a  study   entitled,  "Winter                                                               
Transportation  Study"  that  revealed those  operating  off-road                                                               
vehicles were doing so illegally  because of the requirement of a                                                               
driver's  license for  those  vehicles.   Therefore,  HB 397  was                                                               
drafted.   Representative  Kohring specified  that this  isn't to                                                               
say  that  individuals shouldn't  have  a  driver's license  when                                                               
driving on the road.  However,  he said he believes that it isn't                                                               
reasonable for an individual to have  to study for a license that                                                               
is actually  geared toward driving a  car on a highway  when they                                                               
are going to be operating a snowmobile  on a trail or a boat on a                                                               
lake or river.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MIKE KRIEBER,  Staff to Representative Vic  Kohring, Alaska State                                                               
Legislature, informed the  committee that the bill  passed out of                                                               
the  House Transportation  Standing  Committee accomplished  what                                                               
Representative Kohring  wanted.   However, the Division  of Motor                                                               
Vehicles (DMV) expressed  concern that there was  a loophole that                                                               
would allow a youngster  to drive a car down the  side of a road.                                                               
Therefore, Mr.  Krieber said that  he worked with  the Department                                                               
of  Law and  DMV in  order to  develop the  language included  in                                                               
[Version O].   [Version O] still accomplishes the  exemption of a                                                               
driver's license requirement  for any vehicle off the  road.  The                                                               
bill  would   maintain  the  driver's  license   requirement  for                                                               
operation of  a vehicle on the  road and the vehicle  would still                                                               
be required to meet any  equipment requirements.  Therefore, this                                                               
bill  simply  eliminates  the  driver's  license  requirement  to                                                               
operate a motor vehicle off of a road.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Number 1033                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HAYES  asked if any  consideration has  been given                                                               
to  having  drivers'  certification  for minors.    He  expressed                                                               
concern  with not  having something  in place  to address  minors                                                               
[driving vehicles off the road].                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  KRIEBER  answered  that  it   was  discussed  in  the  House                                                               
Transportation  Standing Committee,  which  heard testimony  from                                                               
the director, Division of Parks,  Department of Natural Resources                                                               
(DNR),  and  from  some board  members  of  SnowTRAC  (Snowmobile                                                               
Trails Advisory Committee).   The SnowTRAC has formed  a group to                                                               
address   safety  issues,   and   they  will   be  presenting   a                                                               
recommendation  addressing   rural-urban  issues  in   regard  to                                                               
whether   there   should   be   a   [statewide/regional]   safety                                                               
certification  program or  training program.   Mr.  Krieber noted                                                               
that there are some training programs in place.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STEVENS  recalled a  constituent complaint  that a                                                               
child in a  village was given a ticket for  underage driving when                                                               
the  mother was  trying to  teach  the child  how to  drive.   He                                                               
inquired as to how this would  impact an underage child living in                                                               
a village with no roads.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  KRIEBER answered  that [HB  397] would  exempt such  a child                                                               
from the driver's license requirement.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Number 0810                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHUCK  HOSACK,  Deputy  Director,   Davison  of  Motor  Vehicles,                                                               
Department of Administration, testified  via teleconference.  Mr.                                                               
Hosack  announced   that  the   [division]  supports   the  bill.                                                               
Furthermore, the  [division] doesn't believe that  it will impact                                                               
highway safety.   The bill merely addresses a problem  in the law                                                               
that was never intended to be enforced.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Number 0577                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
JOHN JOHNSON, President,  Fairbanks Snowtravelers, testifying via                                                               
teleconference, informed the  committee that he is  also a member                                                               
of  the  Alaska Snowmobile  Association  and  the past  chair  of                                                               
SnowTRAC.      Mr.   Johnson   announced   that   the   Fairbanks                                                               
Snowtravelers  are  in  full  support  of  [HB  397].    If  this                                                               
regulation isn't  passed, a  great burden will  be placed  on law                                                               
enforcement within the  state.  Furthermore, without  this bill a                                                               
family recreational activity faces the possibility of ruin.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR   COGHILL    remarked   that   [HB   397]    seems   fairly                                                               
straightforward.  The discussion of  further safety is still open                                                               
in regard to off-road use.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR.  JOHNSON   informed  the  committee  that   he  is  currently                                                               
addressing  the  issue  of   developing  a  statewide  snowmobile                                                               
safety-training program.   Unfortunately,  Alaska is  well behind                                                               
any  snow state  in  the  country in  regard  to safety  training                                                               
programs  for snowmobiles,  not to  mention a  trail system.   He                                                               
announced the  intent to  have a training  program that  would be                                                               
acceptable  to the  state by  next year.   However,  there is  no                                                               
intent to require this for  licensing but rather to merely obtain                                                               
a  sticker to  indicate that  the individual  has learned  how to                                                               
utilize  a  snowmobile  safely  and   thus  enjoy  the  sport  of                                                               
"snowmobiling."                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FATE asked whether there  would be any waivers for                                                               
individuals  who sign  an affidavit  attesting to  the fact  that                                                               
they have  been operating  [snowmobiles] for  a number  of years.                                                               
He  said he  has known  people who  have been  "racers" and  have                                                               
never  had an  accident; he  asked whether  such people  would be                                                               
expected to take the orientation course.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  JOHNSON said  that the  initial plan  simply focuses  on the                                                               
design   of   the  program,   although   there   has  been   some                                                               
consideration   given   to  granting   "grandfathering   rights."                                                               
However, [the  current thought]  is to  grandfather in  folks who                                                               
have  already voluntarily  taken  some sort  of training,  rather                                                               
than to  grandfather in folks based  on how many years  they have                                                               
been  operating snowmobiles.   The  number of  years someone  has                                                               
been driving any  sort of vehicle is no guarantee  that he/she is                                                               
a safe driver.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STEVENS  noted  that although  the  testimony  is                                                               
focusing  on  snowmobiles,  HB   397  pertains  to  "off-highway"                                                               
vehicles,  which he  assumes means  any vehicle  that's not  on a                                                               
highway.   If  so, does  that  mean a  car  or a  truck could  be                                                               
considered an  off-highway vehicle, he  asked.  If the  intent is                                                               
to  speak  to just  snowmobiles,  why  not  just  say so  in  the                                                               
legislation, he also asked.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Number 0342                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  KRIEBER   said:    "Actually,   with  the   requirement  for                                                               
registration of  a vehicle ... a  car or a truck,  that would not                                                               
be  defined  as a  off-highway  vehicle."   The  current  statute                                                               
discusses  motor  vehicles  requiring   a  driver's  license,  he                                                               
explained,  "and what  we've done  here is  we've carved  out the                                                               
off-highway  category, which  includes boats,  wheelchairs, four-                                                               
wheelers,  [and] airplanes."   With  regard to  the inclusion  of                                                               
wheelchairs, he  said Mary Mashburn, Director,  Division of Motor                                                               
Vehicles  (DMV),  cited a  particular  case  in Anchorage,  where                                                               
somebody was given a ticket for  operating a wheelchair on a road                                                               
and the [case] "held up in court."                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  FATE referred  to  aircraft  that are  registered                                                               
under federal  law, and whose  owners have to, on  occasion, make                                                               
emergency landings on roadways or  highways.  Are they subject to                                                               
fines under those conditions, he asked.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. KRIEBER explained that HB  397 focuses on the requirement, or                                                               
lack  of requirement,  for a  driver's license.   He  said he  is                                                               
unaware  of whether  there  would be  any  fines associated  with                                                               
landing [an airplane]  on a road, although under  current law, in                                                               
order to fly an airplane a  person is required to have a driver's                                                               
license anyway.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FATE  indicated his belief that  an airplane pilot                                                               
is  not required  to have  a driver's  license, merely  a pilot's                                                               
certificate.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  KRIEBER   clarified  that   according  to   Ms.  Marshburn's                                                               
testimony last  year on another  piece of  legislation addressing                                                               
airplane safety equipment, in addition  to any other requirements                                                               
for operating an airplane, a driver's license is also required.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COGHILL,  after noting that there  were not enough                                                               
committee members  present to report  the bill out  of committee,                                                               
said he would close the public hearing and hold HB 397.                                                                         

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